a shit, I thought I was able to invite @martin-t to the current discussion…

it just creates a brand new group without history

there was a time when sharing a conversation with someone was just a copy paste away

I already done half the job :p

I was just expecting to not do the remaining half ^_^

@martin-t: initial talk: https://dl.illwieckz.net/b/blendiant/talks/20190803.talk-q3bsp-q3map-blender-cycles.html

thanks

so it uses an external tool, that is interesting, i didn't even look for existing stuff that would convert .map to meshes (apart from your parser)

the external tool was the first experiment

i am still not serious about blendiant, got other projects to work on, was just using it to play with .map files a bit and parsing in rust

it looks like latest stuff is not using noesis

also blender wants to rotate the viewport around a given point but for modeling interiors i feel like t might be more natural to rotate like you do in game - turn the camera itself, not sure if a blender addon can do that

ok, will look at the code when it's public

i am not even sure writing a parser in rust is a good choice given there are existing parsers in q3map2 at least, probably many others

rust is a good language by itself, but yes there is code in other languages around there, and blender has builtin python

a python plugin is ensured to work on any platform

I know my map parser is not built for performance (all those regexp! ), I'm not against doing the job the token-walker way (I'm not saying I have time to rewrite things that already work )

yeah, python is not great for perf (though even my parser in rust isn't exactly instant), still, would be nice to have one implementation that can export bindings to several other langs

extracting code from q3map2 into a lib would work too i guess, i just don't wanna touch it too much

yes

so yeah, blendiant is mostly an experiment and not all choices i made (or will make) there necessarily are the best

there is code somewhere™️ to add doom3 and v220 .map support to q3map2, this can end in a multiformat .map parser

but I am afraid that q3map2 code does not looks very nice

especially, it's full of global vars

but if something comes out of this project, i might help too, editing maps in something other than radiant would be sooo nice

also, jumping into the blender train would be great

you're right that uniting people is a good way to unite projects

so when SomaZ's stuff is published i will link to it from blendiant in case some poor soul decided to extendblendiant

discoverability is important to avoid splitting work

well, splitting work is nice, duplicating is bad, that's what i meant

I understood like this

Oh hey. Just want to make sure that I import .bsp files and not .map files. ^^ Main goal of this is to alter some properties of the bsp draw vertices, lightmaps and the lightgrid directly in the bsp. Combining it with a .map importer and exporter would be perfect. A friend of mine started a .map exporter for 3ds max some time ago. He even converts uv coordinates to the mapping matrix that the old brushes use.

I tried to write this importer as modular as possible. Means I use lots of dictionarys, sets and lists. One can just write a new class that describes another bsp format and the rest should work out of the box as long as some class variables are named correctly.

is that .map exporter code public? the issue with exporting .map from normal 3d tools is converting stuff into convex shapes

i planned to solve that using CGAL's convex decomposition algo but didn't get to it yet so i am curious how he solved it

I think it's close to a public release. I have no idea how he does it, I think he mentioned using a nvidia physics plugin. https://youtu.be/YzVZIvpuctY

added vertex lighting:

lightmaps and lightgrid will be parsed soon

implemented entity parsing and md3 model importing

(all the darker stones around the map are misc_model_statics with a md3 model)

full lightmap support

wow, that looks good!

ty

I'm impressed about how fast it evolves!

imo not fast enough, but it's ok I guess. Wish I had more time to work on this. :/

yeah, that's pretty impressive

i wish my loading/saving script progressed like this but have no time to work on it

At least I've written the plugin modular. Like this you can use the shader system and the entity system for your .map plugin.

looks like I figured out how to read the lightgrid in blender. Just need to pack all of this into code and actually shade all the entitys

wowowowow

got the ambient light complete from the light grid, now only direct lighting from the lightgrid is missing

finished all the static light sources

only two things missing from the shader system: tcMod and all the rgbGen wave functions

idk how much work it took and you clearly know blender better than i do but this looks really fucking impressive

thats alot of work. Really appreciate your acknowledgement. Maybe I know blender better but I think you are the better programmer though ^^

btw, added some tcMods from the shader system

it basically looks like the real game

i don't think i'll ever get to that level with blendiant (the .map loading saving script) given i have no motivation/time to work on it now but at least now i know it's possible

also still hoping you release the source eventually

I definitly will. As I said, you can simply copy the shading system then.

Rest should be pretty useless for your addon

o/

let's welcome @quBit

this is something he achieved: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/650977210500644876/651208505620955167/shot-20191201-233659.jpg he said:

cycles lightmap baking

I don't know if it's possible to turn a private group into a discord server…

maybe it would be time to give life to the Blendiant Task Force™️

i dont think you can convert it into a server, but you can open a server

yep

I'll probably do that

sounds good =)